http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ Hawaii Hoops - Forum Tag: platoon style en Tue, 22 May 2012 07:13:12 +0000 http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change/page/2#post-4036 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:01:48 +0000 backpick 4036@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Here's my take on platooning:</p> <p>1. If you're an all out full court pressing team that looks to score early in posessions than playing 5 at a time could lead to more urgency and build a frantic pace to the game..problems come when good teams don't allow it to happen. </p> <p>Or</p> <p>2. If you feel that a large numbers of your players need to play, this might keep them and their parents happy.</p> <p>Now I'm not sure why Iolani does it, you have to ask Doc about that, but can't argue with sucess. Works for the most part for the Raiders.</p> <p>No insults, no name calling except for youngpopgun, go back to your room and play your High School Musical 3 game on your WI System and leave the bomb throwing to the big boys. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change/page/2#post-4025 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:51:31 +0000 bballconcern 4025@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Better watch out Basketballfan, Backpick might jump all over you for mentioning a change at Punahou or name dropping.</p> <p>Thanks for the intuitive, smart comments...appreciated much. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change/page/2#post-4024 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:25:50 +0000 basketballfan 4024@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Coach Hale should consider taking up Doc's platooning style. They have more than enough players, and may be in need of a change more so than Iolani. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change/page/2#post-4023 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:07:31 +0000 HoopFanatic 4023@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>I think after winning 7 state titles, Doc can have his players wear clown suits and bark like dogs if he chooses.... </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change/page/2#post-4022 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:40:42 +0000 ILHFan2 4022@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>I think the reason Iolani runs the platoon is because of their depth. They can go probably 10-12 deep and most of the teams in the ILH can't go that deep. Bringing in new players and "platooning" causes the other team who isn't as deep to tire while you keep bringing in new legs and continue at the same pace. The problem against St Louis wasn't the platooning, but the defense who gave up too many layups. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4021 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:06:04 +0000 YoungGunna 4021@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>No, Bballconcern you are right. Your discription of Backpick is just that. He has to win or be correct, or he talks trash. Why? He has problems. Some kind of social defect. I'm a 17 year old and I know better than to talk to people that way. Either he's a child or very small and narrow minded adult that HAS TO BE BETTER THAN THE CROWD OR HE GETS LOUD!.Ignore the narrow minded child. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4020 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:13:46 +0000 bballconcern 4020@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Okay, I concede, you da man, I give in. If this is what people do when they blog, I will look for other ways to discuss issues. Seems like you think this is your website, but it looks like others don't appreciate your wonderful information also. I now see where I went wrong, with the title of the thread. I should have not put Coaching Change, what I meant to say was in the first sentence, is a change needed,but that was my mistake. Iolani has had great success and I never said that Doc isn't a good coach. Doc gets everything out of his players.Regarding platooning, if it is so popular, why don't other high schools or colleges do it. There must be a reason. This was the real question to be asked, thank you for helping me get to my point. I would really like to hear your comment on this. I also never said that they don't have talent, I asked why players aren't coming to Iolani. Where are the 6'-4" plus players going? Iolani has a great basketball tradition, I would think that good/great players on the island would be tearing down the doors to get in. It's a question Backpick, to spark some intelligent conversation. Maybe the school standards are tough or maybe the player doesn't prefer platooning or Iolani style of basketball. As far as naming a coach, I only did that after someone else actually put names down, and you are right, bad judgement. So let's get our facts straight before you start spewing out comments. It was a question to get some feedback, comments, opinion. Pulse 65 and relaxed. Have great evening. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4017 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:28:25 +0000 backpick 4017@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Once again, you stated Iolani should make a change due to the platooning and the lack of talent on the campus. They have four seniors on a 17 man roster and with the exception of the 2 ILH losses have been one of elite teams in Hawaii. So please expand on your assesment.<br /> As for you calling out the Moanalua coach on rumor while his team is still playing is something I don't prescribe to. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4015 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:10:52 +0000 RodneyKing 4015@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>"CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!" </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4013 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:46:47 +0000 bballconcern 4013@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Talk about confusing the subject, you went out of bounds a long time ago, just to try and feel good. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4012 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:43:31 +0000 KonaStyle 4012@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Personally the rumors make this site more interesting. If you want more credibility, then you would need to have the registration process more idenitifiable..... </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4011 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:32:17 +0000 backpick 4011@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Pluse rate at a comforable 65 right now. But I do enjoy ranking on people. Now you say the truth will come out. What does that mean, are you reading Taro Cards? Good to see you came into the gutter with me by calling a jerk, granted it was indirectly. What has got lost is your original post asking if Iolani needs a change after two loses. Hate to think what you want to do with Punahou after four losses. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4010 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:27:31 +0000 bballconcern 4010@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>By the way Backpick, ya gotta start sometime. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4008 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:06:47 +0000 bballconcern 4008@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Like I mentioned, time will tell. Sounds like the truth bothers a few people and their only defense is to rank on people. Sorry we can't all be professional Jerks, but it is getting a bit fun to see someone get so excited. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4007 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:42:15 +0000 backpick 4007@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>More than fair advice KonaCoast, but it won't change the fact BBallConcernedIdiot is a knucklehead. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4006 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:17:02 +0000 KonaStyle 4006@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>There are many people who makes rumors. While the rumors may turn out to be true, at the time the rumors are posted here, it is impossible to validate the rumors. Look at the firing of Mike Coito from the other week? Look at people talking about the Iolani boys who were either injured of academically ineligible. There are so many rumors being told on this site. I think if you are going to jump on one, then you need to jump on them all. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-4004 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:14:18 +0000 MichealBuffer 4004@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>"LET'S GET READY TO RRRRRRRRUMBLE!!!!!!!!" </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3998 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:36:56 +0000 backpick 3998@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>One more thing BBallConcernedIdiot, you join Hawaii Hoops website community two days ago and make three posts and because of that you want to set the ground rules for others? Last time I checked, everyone has the opportunity to write whatever they want but run the risk of getting hammered by the peeps. Plus it's just words, get a spine and deal with it, you're more than likely a member of PETA and Greenpeace. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3997 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:23:49 +0000 backpick 3997@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Woah Big Boy, I jumped on you for the rumor you claimed you heard, which had no supporting material to back it up. In my opinon, if you want throw a bomb like that then back it. I'm pretty sure Coaches don't want their name being thrown around regarding another job.<br /> As for your latest post, no problems here, that's your opinon and you can rant all you want, my feelings won't get hurt like yours would be if I said you were a nimrod, which by all accounts you are! </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3995 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:16:15 +0000 Just4fun 3995@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Dalton Hilliard, Henry Cassiday, and Manti Te'o didn't play. However, Manti was at the game. It was an ugly win for the saints, they fell apart in the 3rd quarter but managed to pull it together in the end. The outcome could've been different if these players played but could've, should've, would've at this point don't make a difference because they didn't play and the "W" went to the crusaders. STL played pretty sloppy in the 2nd half. Makaula did a great job guarding Viena, Gonsalves shot great all night, and McClinton hit key free throws to seal the Victory. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3991 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:00:37 +0000 bballconcern 3991@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>Thank you Backpick for your personal opinion, which all of these comments are, personal opinions. I thought this website is for people to bring up subjects for discussion, to get other peoples opinions and ideas. Calling people "idiots and retards and etc" isn't too professional or appropriate, and to me is very disrespectful to the website and the people that use it and view it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and should be be able to voice that opinion in a respectful way. Time will tell what the outcome is. </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3982 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:42:11 +0000 HiSelect 3982@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>I heard a bunch of Punahou's main guys didn't play. I thought everyone was supposed to be back including Teo. Anyone know the story???? </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3981 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:55:58 +0000 HoopFanatic 3981@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>St. Louis beat Punahou. Punahou is really underachieving this year.... </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3942 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:47:16 +0000 backpick 3942@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>So let's see if I'm reading the first post corectly:</p> <p>Iolani loses a tough game at St Louis then another one at Kamehameha (who by the way is really good) and some dope starts saying they need a change. I guess the fact that Doc and his staff have won 7 State Titles, numerous ILH Titles and have been to who knows how many consecective State Tournaments means absolutley nothing. It's a long season and most teams run into some bumps in the road along the way. The teams that navigate those bumps will rise to the top at the end.<br /> The statement that Iolani needs "change" is so far off base, only thing that needs change is the thought process of the idiot who started this thread.<br /> As for future replacements, I'm sure a school like Iolani will follow their process in the nameing of a new Coach when it's time to do so. So to bring up names may be fun, it's not very responsible to list names of Coaches who have current programs to run.<br /> As much as I enjoy picking games and poking fun, I hate when some faceless retard with a keyboard uses phrases like "rumors", "I heard" or "someone told me".<br /> I would rather talk about the Punahou/St Louis game than dealing in "rumors". </p> http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/topic/iolani-coaching-change#post-3935 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:21:36 +0000 HoopFanatic 3935@http://www.hawaiihoops.com/forum/ <p>It's Iolani, who wouldn't be interested? </p>