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Boys States (New Format)

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  • Started 3 years ago by HoopFanatic
  • Latest reply from HIHoopsFan

  1. HoopFanatic
    Veteran

    Hey BBJ, I think the ILH champion will have a huge advantage this year in states. Traditionally, the OIA Champ, ILH #2 and possibly ILH #3 are on the same side of the bracket.

    So potentially, it could be Iolani (assuming they are the ILH Champ) on one side, and Kahuku, Kamehameha, and Punahou on the other side.

    Kahuku may have to go through Iolani, Kamehameha, and Punahou to win a state title. If they do, they surely will be called the champion.

    Personally, I think the HHSAA should go to 16 teams, no byes, and seed them accordingly 1-16. The teams should be bracketed on strength of team, not reward league champs when traditionally 2 leagues are normally stronger.

    Also, I can understand where matchmakers don't want teams from the same league to face off on the opening night. But, to place league teams on the opposite ends of the bracket often reward certain champs to face certain chumps.

    They need to rewrite the language in the selection guidelines and make it possible to put a 3rd place team in the same league's champion on the same side.

    Each league should get 1 representative so sit on the selection committee with the HHSAA head to place the teams and seed them accordingly.

    The preseason should be used as a variable. Then the coaches would schedule tougher out of league preseason games and would take it more seriously.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  2. BasketballJones
    Veteran

    Its been done this way forever. Some years it works out and some years it just looks totally unfair.

    I would love to have the tourney increased to 16 teams but I doubt that will ever happen, especially with the state of the economy the way it is.

    If there were 16 teams, where do you think the other invitations should go?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  3. BasketballJones
    Veteran

    Hold on...I could be wrong about this being done like this forever. It just seems that its been done like this for awhile. I believe last year's brackets were done like this.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  4. HoopFanatic
    Veteran

    If the ILH Champ is seeded #1, don't you think they really have a HUGE advantage with the OIA Champ, ILH #2 and possibly #3 going on the other side of the bracket?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  5. BasketballJones
    Veteran

    I agree, it is a huge advantage for the #1 seed. I believe the ILH champ has received the #1 seed for at least 7 years. It will be interesting how the seedings will look like, say, if an OIA school would receive the #1 seed.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  6. HIHoopsFan
    Member

    I think the only way the OIA champ will be the #1 seed is if the ILH teams knock off each other. Then the OIA champ needs to go undefeated, or at the most has 1 loss while the ILH Champ has 2 or more losses.

    Or, if Punahou wins the ILH title and since Kahuku beat Punahou twice, head-to-head, should be seeded higher.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  7. HiSelect
    Member

    Though it didn't pass this time around for the spring sports there is a greater likelihood that the state tournament will be shrunken down to 8 teams - which would suck.

    16 teams won't happen in the next 10 years at least.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  8. HIHoopsFan
    Member

    I agree!

    Posted 3 years ago #

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