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Greg Tacon, Head Coach Iolani Raiders

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  • Started 3 years ago by BasketballJones
  • Latest reply from 2Dhoop
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  1. BasketballJones
    Veteran

    Interesting ring to it, huh? Been hearing rumours that Greg Tacon is very interested in becoming the next head coach at Iolani should Doc decide to retire. Here are my thoughts:

    Pros - One of the better game strategists in the state. When it comes to X's and O's, you have to mention Tacon's name among the states best. Extensive head coaching background which began in Washington state, Punahou and now at Moanalua. Best dressed coaching staff in the state. Hands down.

    Cons - Not an alumnus of Iolani, but has two sons that are students so no one can question his vested interest in the school. Will go up against some highly qualiied alumni's that will apply for the job as well. Iolani AD is a graduate and former alumni at Moanalua, so maybe Maruyama wouldn't want to "take away" a very good coach from his alma mater.

    What are your thoughts?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  2. PolyHoopsta
    Member

    Why not, that is one of the most prestigious coaching jobs in the state. Iolani is to B-ball, what St. Louis is to football if you talking championships and athletes. From what I see He is a good coach but I think he should be getting more from his players. He coached at Punahou with Miah there, no championship. He coached at Moanalua and did good thanks to Stevie Austin. This year he had Monroe and to me they still should have found a way to make states but like you said BBJ he needs to inspire his players more to accomplish more. He is not an alumnus but I do know of one and wonder if he would put his name in the hat, you know the guy from the windward side wearing blue and orange. To me they should take applicants, let Doc, Eddie, the alumni, and past players decide in who takes the rein of the RAIDERS.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  3. BasketballJones
    Veteran

    I have to believe that the coach from the windward side wearing blue and orange will apply for the job.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  4. PolyHoopsta
    Member

    Another alumni is the guy from Mule town, is his name going into the hat too. That's a good friend of mine but I don't think he would get it.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  5. backpick
    Veteran

    PollyAnna does not realize that the more he blogs the more we find out about him. A player in the 80's, who's friends with the Leilehua coach and does not think highly of the Moanalua coach. This is a game we all like to play here at HawaiiHoops, it's called "Guess the Blogger" Keep your cards closer to your chest, people are looking.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  6. PolyHoopsta
    Member

    Backpick, I don't know what your problem is but hey since you own this site you can have it all to yourself. I was not trying to do or say anything offensive on this site, I just figured being basketball junkies that we could have some interesting trivia. You don't know me and I don't know you but I do know a lot about the game of basketball past and present. I'm outta here.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  7. backpick
    Veteran

    My problem is first timers like you who write things they can't back up. Sorry nobody put your name down in one of your threads, depriving you of the admiration you're looking for.
    Oh yeah, don't let the door hit you in ass on your way out.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  8. PolyHoopsta
    Member

    Just because you don't know the answers don't be a hater, study your material more, then maybe you will one day know the answer. If you knew who I was I don't think you would be talking so tough. Anyone can hide behind a screen.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  9. backpick
    Veteran

    Rule number one, don't say "I'm outta here" and come back 3 minutes later. And spare us with the if you knew who I was crap.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  10. ILHFan2
    Member

    Whoever does get the job at Iolani will have a lot of talent to work with.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  11. HoopFanatic
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    What in the world are you talking about St. Poly's Girl? He took a okay Moanalua team and nearly upset a superior Punahou team two years ago. He took a competitive Moanalua team last year and upset the ILH champion Iolani, never an easy thing to do. His team this year was not that talented. They had no ball handlers. They had no post presence. They had one scorer who had a hard time creating offense for himself. He got open off the offensive schemes designed to get him open.

    At Punahou, he never won states but went to states several times. In the past 11 years, Punahou only won 1, so it's not an easy thing to do.

    Kind of hard to coach when you are being micromanaged and one parent with clout has the AD's in his pocket.

    Honestly, you are a troll. Who cares about the past players? They will have trustees, the principal, administrators, the AD, and maybe Doc.

    Backpick is right, you are strange, he just doesn't want to hurt your feelings.

    Maybe if this was 800BC, then you would know basketball. But for 2009, you are in the ICE AGE homer!

    Tacon is the best choice.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  12. HoopFanatic
    Veteran

    Dude, I thought you said you was outta here? Why are you back? Now, not only are you ignorant, you are also a liar.....

    Posted 3 years ago #

  13. clouds
    Member

    Wow- someone struck a chord. It's been established that Greg Tacon is untouchable on this board. Whenever anyone talks bad about him, most of the regular posters start ganging up on the dissenter and often times it gets personal.

    Let's just accept the fact that all you Iolani lovers love Tacon.

    I think he's a competent guy, but his last season in the ILH wasn't a great one.

    Tacon was ousted after they failed to make the state tournament in 2006 (and after Sr. Ostrowski's fit). What I remember about that team was that they were offensively gifted and played terrible defense. Not a good sign as far as coaching goes. They had Miah, Spencer, Steinhoff and Danny Cho. That kind of talent has the potential to win the whole thing most years and at least make the state tourney. Sure, maybe Miah and Spencer (who disappeared in almost every big game's second half) never had it in them (Hale couldn't do it), but point guards like Miah and centers like Spencer don't come around every day.

    Tacon's ILH tenure could not be described as a "success," so please get off dissenting opinions that don't put Tacon in the proverbial 'hall of fame'.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  14. HoopFanatic
    Veteran

    Let's look at Tacon's tenure at Punahou. He made states 3/5 years. He had MacLachlin breathing down his neck. It's not like any other program won states during that time.

    Let's see how successful anyone would be in the kind of environment at Punahou. While the administration embraced Hale, they supported MacLachin's desire to showcase his kid.

    Nobody is saying he should be in the hall of fame. But, other than Doc, who is better?

    Maybe Grant, but his teams were stacked. And if you recall, Grant's first OIA coaching experience was pathetic if you recall correctly. Chico is a good coach, but I am pretty sure his style wouldn't fit well there.

    And before this year, going on your criteria, Tengan and Nakanishi didn't have a successful ILH run either huh?

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  15. clouds
    Member

    I've always thought the Nakanishis were great defensive coaches. Their team was pretty stacked this year, so they won it all. If you ask me, I think they can do more with less than Tacon can. Their teams always play outstanding defense.

    Tengan has benefit from the outstanding athletes he's had the priviledge to coach. Nice guy, and not the worst coach in the state, but how on earth did he blow that 15-point lead against Campbell in the opening round of the 2006 tourney? Scott Smith was just murdering Campbell inside, so Tengan decided to give him some bench time. I was there- it was just awful.

    In 2003, Saint Louis had actually beaten Iolani that year in the regular season, only to receive the biggest ass-whooping in recent memory in the state final. That Iolani team was one of the best in state history, but Saint Louis also delivered an epic flop.

    Perhaps the most compelling argument against Tengan's ability is when you compare last year's team to this year's. How does Dean Viena go from second or third guard off the bench to most prolific scoring big-man in the ILH? How does Micah McClinton go from enigma to one of the ILH's best players? How on earth could they have not exploited Cole Shidaki's talents with this very same bunch around him?

    This year's team could score with the best of them. Tengan's teams never played great offense, and his teams only played great defense when it had great, great athletes. The team completely fell apart in 2004 despite starting with a super-talented Desmond Hanohano and young Kerstan Ho. In 2005, the team could have lost every game in the ILH if not for Jack Miller's stellar play. Saint Louis would have finished fifth the year after if not for Jeremiah Masoli's transfer.

    He was an average coach- he couldn't make a team better than its parts.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  16. backpick
    Veteran

    I gots to jump in on this one, "more with less" Besides Austin and Monroe, name one more All League caliber player from Moanalua over the past 3 years.
    I have no dog in this race (Docs replacement) so I think I can give an objective view. I think you can get on him for the Punahou days even though it ran at the time as the Low/Pape/Shoji teams. Even though they beat Iolani twice that year and also knocked Kamehameha. Their problem was that St Louis had their number. That Crusader team was pretty good even though they had the meltdown vs Campbell. But a team with Ostrowski and McLachlin should have done better.
    I saw Moanalua a few times this season and they were average at beat and still had Kahuku and Kaimuki on the ropes for a majority of those two games. Like I said, I have no dog in the Doc Derby, but you got to be fair. Be has done pretty good with marginal players over there.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  17. basketballfan
    Member

    Tacon is as good as any when it comes to strategy and x's and o's. He would be a perfect fit for an Iolani team that is known for it's smart play. He won't have to worry about making the most out of what little talent he has, because Iolani will have lots of talent next year.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  18. KonaStyle
    Member

    Tacon has done more with less in the past 3 years than any other coach. Clouds is floating in the sky. Try coaching at Punahou and see how you do. It's more than just coaching talent. You have administration that micromanages. Every parent thinks their kid is a DIV 1 prospect.

    As for St. Louis, you can say they fell apart too. They beat Punahou twice, then got spanked when it counted. Kind of strange that you failed to mention that, but I understand given your subjective and bias views. No credibility whatsoever.

    The fact that you claim Moanalua was stacked with Austin shows your ignorance. Hua, Kure, Yoshizawa were servicable, but not stars or close to it.

    He took one really good player, surrounded them by what he had, and upset the #1 team in the state last year.

    If the Monroe incident didn't happen, there would have been a good chance Moanalua was in the finals. And, Monroe was not the player he was this year, last year. Not eve close.

    Other than Doc, Nakanishi, Grant, Furtado, and Tacon are on the same level.

    Then there is a drop-off.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  19. WordUp
    Member

    Are you kidding me! You may want to look at what Doc has acomplished as compared to Nakanishi, Grant, Furtado and Tacon. You maybe the one floating in the clouds KS.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  20. 808-st8-f8ful
    Member

    Wordup I thought the same thing.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  21. 2Dhoop
    Veteran

    Agreed. Coach Mugiishi is definitly a step or two, or three above the competion in my books. Take a good look at the house that Doc built.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  22. 808-st8-f8ful
    Member

    Ditto on that.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  23. KonaStyle
    Member

    CAN YOU READ WORDUP? I said other than Doc (MEANING DOC IS ON HIS OWN LEVEL......IDIOT), the next tier of coaches is Nakanishi, Grant, Tacon, and Furtado.

    UM ADMINISTRATOR, CAN WE GET AN IDIOT CENSOR?

    The funniest thing is I said Doc is on his own level, that is why I said, "other than Doc."

    The best is when people (WORDUP) talk crap, and they are even smart enough to know they read the post wrong.

    What a fool!

    I will write it in elementary language since WordUp cannot comprehend simple posts.

    Other than Doc who is on his own level demonstrated by his multiple state titles, the next line of coaches in my opinion are Jesse Nakanishi, Kelly Grant, Chico Furtado, and Greg Tacon.

    Is that simple enough for you WordUp? Please understand what is being said before you get your panties all in a bunch.

    Damn, can people on here understand what is being said? There should be a Mount Rushmore for idiots, this guy can be on it!

    Posted 3 years ago #

  24. 2Dhoop
    Veteran

    Up yours Kona. Show some class.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  25. HoopFanatic
    Veteran

    Damn a lot of hate going in. Where is Rodney King and Michael Buffer, they always appear at the most peculiar of times.

    But in all fairness guys, after reading KS's post, he does say other than Doc. So he is giving Doc his props.

    Also, hwo do you separate Dean and Adam if they both apply? What you think 2D?

    Hey 2D, what's up and how's the poke. Have you tried Fresh Catch on Waialae across City Mill, not bad....

    Posted 3 years ago #

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