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Reason why St. Joe seeded third

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  1. Hi-Low
    Member

    Warning: This is for mature readers only who can understand it's poking fun at the D-II seedings. That's it, no malicious intent -- and only to hopefully bring a few chuckles from the Cardinals and their fans. If you don't have a sense of humor, please move on to another blog. Thank you.

    I heard from a close Oahu friend whose brother's sister is a night security guard at the HHSAA office in Honolulu about what happened during the state tournament seedings meeting on Sunday.

    This is from security guard Lolita's tape recorder, which was hidden under her large box of donuts and behind her sumo-sized saimin:

    HHSAA committee chairman: "Now, let's move on to the Division II seedings. Anyone have anything to say before we get started?"

    MIL spokesman: "Hi everyone, mahalo for inviting me. I've brought each of you 50-pound bags of Maui onions, ono desserts, and juice, juice, juice plus reduced hotel/golf course rate coupons. It's just a token of my appreciation and should in no way affect my son's school Seabury Hall in being seeding No. 2."

    HHSAA official: "Thanks, I'm sure everyone could use your contributions on the committee. I don't think these small gifts will affect our voting for the seeds, but I've been wrong in the past, usually depending on how many other larger gifts we receive."

    OIA spokesman: "Nice job, MIL, with the gifts. Very good touch. Well, committee chairman, I would like to pass along to the seeding voters a few $350 gift cards from Ala Moana stores, some free helicopter tour certificates, a brand new set of Tiger Woods' autographed golf clubs that were given to me and that I'd personally would like the committee chairman to have. I just don't have the time to use the golf clubs. I'm giving you these gifts before the voting to start the meeting off on a good note, to make everyone happy. It's not about seeding our league champion Roosevelt No. 1. If that happens, it happens. By the way, chairman, if you want to try out the new golf clubs, I've got tee times for you, your family and anyone else you want to bring along next Sunday at Turtle Bay, the day after the state tournaments. Let me know if you want to go."

    HHSAA chairman: "Mr. OIA, thanks for your input and the gifts, they were better than the MIL's so I think your league is in good shape heading into the seeding vote. However, let me make this perfectly clear, there is no way your gifts will sway our voting ... unless someone else makes a more attractive donation." The chairman then breaks into a big laugh and winks at the other people in the room.

    BIIF spokesman: "Mr. Chairman, I had intended to bring along several boxes of Big Island Candies cookies and other goodies, but at the Hilo Airport, the security people took them away. They told me there had been a 'tainted cookie' threat and they had to taste each cookie to make sure they were safe. They ate them all!"

    After hearing that, Lolita yelled out to the committee: "That's my cousins in Hilo. Everyone in my family works in security ... and loves sweet stuff!"

    HHSAA chairman: "Miss Lolita, please reframe from your comments. This is a private meeting and no one should ever know what we discuss or what we are given by the leagues to help us analyze the seedings and make it fair, right down the middle. Okay, BIIF, what else do you have to say and contribute?

    BIIF spokesman: "As I was saying, all my goodwill gifts were taken away and I'm sorry that I don't have anything to give the committee members. I just ask the committee be fair. Our top team is St. Joseph and they have an impressive record, even beating OIA D-I champ Moanalua and BIIF D-I champ Hilo twice. We believe St. Joe should be seeded No. 1."

    HHSAA chairman: "Are you sure you didn't bring along any gifts?"

    BIIF spokesman: "Yes, it just didn't work out."

    HHSAA chairman: "Too bad, I can see some problems with St. Joe being seeded No. 1. They didn't go undefeated like Seabury Hall and they weren't on TV like Roosevelt, so in my opinion, St. Joe might be a No. 3 seed. But we'll have to wait until all the votes are cast."

    ILH spokesman: "Mr. Chairman, our league champion is University and we believe they should be seeded No. 4. I'm sorry that I did not bring along any gifts today for the committee members, but since you, Mr. Chairman, and I are related, you know what to do."

    HHSAA chairman: "Mr. ILH, no problem, you'll be taken care of and get the No. 4 seed. See you at the annual family Christmas party."

    Kauai spokesman: "Mr. Chairman, I tried to bring along several gifts, mainly delicious foods, but had them taken away by the security guards at the Lihue Airport."

    Lolita: "I've got relatives there, too!"

    HHSAA chairman: "Miss Lolita, please! And can you pass me one of your donuts, they look good and tasty."

    Kauai spokesman: "Mr. Chairman, can we get back to business? Kapaa is our league champion and won almost all of their games. We believe they should be seeded No. 4."

    HHSAA chairman: "Well, Mr. KIF, based on your initial remarks, I'd say no seedings for you. Okay, it's time to take the vote. I also want to add that I believe Roosevelt is No. 1, Seabury Hall No. 2, St. Joe No. 3 and University No. 4. Let's now vote and if anyone has any questions, please call me on my cell, next Sunday. I'll be at Turtle Bay."

    HHSAA secretary: "Mr. Chairman, I have counted the secret ballots and amazingly, it came out just like you predicted -- No. 1 Roosevelt, No. 2 Seabury Hall, No. 3 St. Joseph and No. 4 University."

    HHSAA chairman: "Okay, the seedings are finished AND absolutely fair. Good luck to all of your teams and see you next year. Now get going, I've got a meeting with all the tournament referees -- I want to tell them how I want the games called because it's important to the television ratings who plays in the championship games."

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. bibbyboi
    Member

    BWWHHAAAA!!!!! I wouldn't even be surprised if that's how it really went down...lol...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. BasketballJones
    Veteran

    Frickin' great stuff Hi-Low! Thanks for that...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. uhfan
    Member

    Here is the real story:

    HHSAA Chairperson: The OIA has won the all of the D2 titles so far so until they are beaten in states they have proven to be the toughest league regardless of preseason since that was 3 months ago and not all coaches try to win the preseason and many just use it as a gauge to prepare for the regular and post season which is the only way you can qualify for states.

    Debra: Ok noted.

    HHSAA Chairperson: Let's make Seabury Hall #2 so all of the bloggers from Big Island will have things to do in their spare time and come onto this HHSAA blog.

    BIIF Rep: Ok sounds good. We need something to do since all of the bars do not open until 4:00pm.

    I think it will be Iolani-Kamehameha in the D1 finals and Roosevelt-St. Joe's in the D2 finals. Does anyone know if the games will be on TV because I have to work Thursday-Sunday? If so which games will be shown?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Luna86
    Member

    Hilarious fun Hi-Low...thanks for the read pal!!!!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. RooseveltCoach
    Member

    I gave those Tiger Woods clubs to my AD so I could have the job. Re-gifter!!! Now I am pissed.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. bigisle
    Member

    uhfan...shouldn't OIA teams be the favorite every year considering thier enrollment figures compared to "real" D2 teams?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. OldG
    Member

    @ UHfan, I assume your blog about "Big Islanders don't have nothing to do until the bars open at 4:00pm" was an
    attempt at humor. Don't do it brother. That wasn't humorous at all. The bars open at 2pm. Get it right.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. bibbyboi
    Member

    @OldG, LMAO!!!! Nice....

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. Luna86
    Member

    yikes! DON'T DO IT BROTHER!!!...yeah, get it straight UHfan...cause OldG said so!!!!! lm-oKOLE-OFF

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. uhfan
    Member

    Old Skool, you are right, I forgot, you guys also like to make 2-3 names each and blog, my bad!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. bibbyboi
    Member

    @uhfan, are you always such a negative Nancy? You have no sense of humor do you?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. OldG
    Member

    B-Boi....no biggie. I take no offense to such "put down" of us people on the island of Hawai'i. Just let UHFAN have his say. This is a free forum about Hoops here in Hawaii. And yes, I do have 2 names.......first and last!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. uhfan
    Member

    Well not when you try to insult students p-bibby.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. uhfan
    Member

    Well most people have 3 names, first, middle, and last. I guess you forgot your middle name. Wow I can be just as ignorant as you.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. Luna86
    Member

    Yeah baby...."first and last"...backwards and forwards, up and down...somebody's trying to be a "negative clown" with the "put-downs"...lol

    Negative Nancy...lol

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. bibbyboi
    Member

    @OldG, you referred to me by first name in a few threads, can you give me a hint to who you are??? LOL...It's been killing me...I'm usually good at figuring out who is who from the big island but with you I can't...lol...

    @Luna, i'm glad you liked it and laughed at it...

    @Uh, let's get two things straight...It's not an insult if it's true...His arguments were invalid and i said they were...Secondly, how the hell do i know if he's really a student?? For all I know he could be an alias of yours...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. Kainoa808
    Member

    wow. biif fans rly do have no life if u have the time to think of and write this. haha

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. uhfan
    Member

    BibbyBoi, I am not from the Big Isle, hence I do not have 2 names on here. But thanks for showing us how you think. As for a logic, research methodology, action research, or statistics class, they teach you to scope a 3 year sample at the very least to minimize bias and inconsistent data. So based on that, telling a kid to take a logic, research, or methodology course is moot since you only want to sample a 3 month period.

    No one collecting data would target such a small period for collection. So before you offer advice and try to insult others, you may want to actually understand what you are saying. MIT, Stanford, John Hopkins, or any Tier 1 University all teach you to random sample, blind sample, or control sample a 3 year study. Anything less is a waste of time actually. And since the OIA won the last 3 years in D2, poof...they get the #1 seed. In the future make sure you actually understand how to collect and evaluate data before you attack someone and insinuate they are not intelligent, especially a kid.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. OldG
    Member

    @H-fan, I really do have a first and last name only. I don't Drink alcoholic beverages and there may be things that I'm ignorant about. @Kainoa808, great name just like my grandson. Life's good and we all have one. Be smart, not a smart okole.

    Thanks Hi-Low for the good thread. I'll be looking forward to your mana'o throughout the States.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. hatabata
    Member

    here we go again HF in the house new name same rapp.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. bibbyboi
    Member

    So what you're saying is you can't make objective decisions unless you have a 3 year sampling???

    So logical deduction is worthless in other words??? There is no need for a 3 year sampling when logically deducing arguments...

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. Luna86
    Member

    @ hatabata,

    Who are you referring to as HF?...OldG, Uhfan, luna86, kainoa808..???? Just curious

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. uhfan
    Member

    No what I am saying is you can make the most accurate and objective conclusions with a 3 year sample. And by reading your posts you are not objective which is shown by your mood and emotion. Once that happens objectivity goes out the door. Am I incorrect?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. haina83
    Member

    True.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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